1. Short Paragraph – Personal Reflection: Before reading the selection from Plato write at least one full paragraph on this question: Why do you think Plato (or anyone else) would want to censor Hesiod? Remember that Hesiod was the poet who wrote about the fight between the gods and the titans.
Plato believes that the "Guardians," or in this case the gods, should show knowledge, courage, and strength. In Hesiod, the Gods are shown as fools, killing each other off in the pursuit of power, and cowering in fear from those that may do the same to them. Sure, they showed immense strength, but they lacked all the other, more important qualities of a good guardian.
2. Then read pp. 67-76 (Section I. Secondary or Literary Education)
In the process of doing that right now
3. Short Answers – Text based questions. Answer both questions
a. What are Homer and Hesiod guilty of?
Homer and Hesiod are gulty of "Misinterpreting the nature of gods and heroes, like a portrait painter whose portraits bear no resemblance to their originals"
And
b. What are the two main characteristics of “god” and what are the laws/principles of story telling based on those characteristics?
The two characteristics of god is that he is the ultimate good and can cause no bad, and because of that he cannot be responsible for everything, but only a small portion of human life. Because of this, we should not inaccurately portray him. Since he is the ultimate good and thus can cause no bad, we cannot say he is "the dispenser of good AND evil."
4. Compare what you wrote in your personal reflection above (#1) with what Plato wrote. How close were you to what Plato wrote?
I think I hit it rather close to the mark. My only false assumption is that Plato was referring directly to the gods when he spoke of the "Guardians," and not just inspiration for said guardians.
DISCUSSION TERMINATED. END OF LINE.
Now, before I get into the copied and pasted Clan Darkterror Productions updates, I have a slightly more academic announcement/request to tell you all. I was speaking with one of my acquaintances online, and she brought up how silly my love of Disneyland is, and how I make such a big deal about this being the first time in a long time I haven't visited it over the summer, and how it's silly that I had to go and "make a big deal out of material things like that." In response, I posted this:
'My Disneyland withdrawal... it's not about "[making] a big deal out of material things like that," It's about the feeling that comes from Disneyland. You are a fine example of why the world is in the horrible state it's in: You all focus on the bad times in life, and thus the world reflects your thoughts. You all use it as an excuse to say "My life sucks more than yours," as if it's some sort of honor. Disneyland is where I go to get my mind off of that stuff. I've practically spent a fourth of my entire life there, I've seen just about everything there is there. Atop that, everyone says I've already "grown out of things like that." But I still go anyway. Why? If I may quote from an episode of The Twilight Zone, that episode being the "Passage Aboard the Lady Anne," "All people know now adays is hurry, hurry, hurry, quick, quick, quick, rush rush, why? They've scrapped our beautiful boat, what's to say they won't scrap the world next?" Time is violence. Time is infinite, but there is never enough of it. You'll never have "Time enough at last." In Disneyland, there is almost no sense of time. You only realize it exists when you realize it's already 10 at night, and you didn't even notice that the sun went down. With the state that the human population is in, I may never live to see utopia, but at least in Disneyland I can emulate that feeling, if only to a very small magnitude. That's why it always pisses me off when I hear people my age gloating about how they flicked off the camera on Splash Mountain, or made sex jokes in one of the kiddie playgrounds. Disneyland has gone so far as to grow a FOREST around it to block out the outside world, and people try to bring the evils of that world inside anyway. They ruin my utopia.
You all blindly run about Plato's cave, some of you unshackled, some of you unknowingly still tied by the feet to your prison. But you all share some similarities: You all try to search for the exit, for the outside, and you all don't seem to realize that you've caused that exit to cave in from all your blindness and bumping into things. Me? I need not the sunlight. I'd rather voyage deeper into the cave, and see what treasures I can find. If ignorance is bliss, then knowledge can be damned."
Now, I've suddenly grown quite an attachment to this post. I was really just following a train of thought, I didn't purposefully mean to use Disneyland as an allegory for utopia, but now that I have... I'm thinking of taking this and turning it into a complete philosophical piece to post on My Deviantart (The tentative title, of course, being "The Allegory of Injun Joe's Cave" XD). So, I do ask this of everyone who reads this: Please, read through aforementioned post, and critique it. I would really like an emphasis on logic and/or lack of, since this really was not written to be a literary piece...yet. Thanks!
Now, for your regularly scheduled CDP update:
So, throughout the production of Eternity's End so far, I've been really experimenting with the concept of a virtual office (Partly inspired by Tom Clancy's talk of it in "Teeth of the Tiger"). Until now, I've only been recruiting classmates and close friends, so I can still meet up with them in person if the Virtual office fails.
Well, I feel confident, and feel like stepping up this concept to the next level. Now's the time to, ah, "overcome topography through the use of the topological plane", as McKenzie Wark's "Gamer Theory" would probably put it.
I've decided that I MAY be publicly hiring for the last main voice-acting job, the voice of the younger of the two princesses of Kakana and the mercenary team's only Kunoichi, Dimona. However, I'm going to be a lot more strict. You gotta go through an audition, of sorts. In reality, that just means email us, I'll send you back a little script, and you send me back the soundclips.
I warn you though, since this is a REALLY BIG test on the concept of a virtual office, you gotta be serious about this. That doesn't necessarily mean putting in 16+ hours of work a day (Although I would love it if you do ;)), but just that you don't fall behind too much.
Oh, there are also a bunch of little jobs up for grabs, too. These are only a few lines or so, so these aren't as serious ;) For all genders, too!
So, if anyone is interested, mail us at eternitysendrecruiting@gmail.com
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Justin,
Thanks for pointing me in this direction. As usual, I find your writing thought provoking; you have the makings of a philosopher. I will respond by listing things that have resonated with me and point out some possible lacunae.
I strongly suggest that you look into a French philosopher named Jean Baudrillard. Here is a wiki link to a book of his that makes an appearance in the movie The Matrix. If you take up Baudrillard, I strongly suggest you read secondary sources first, because his writing is notoriously opaque. Your interest in representation and reality will eventually take you to postmodern philosophy, and Baudurillard is related to that type of thought.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simulacra_and_Simulation
1. Time. Your comments about time are particularly striking. I think you are on to something with Disneyland as a utopia without time, and this is worth following up. I wonder if timelessness, or at least a particular way of looking at time (i.e. history), is a characteristic of other utopias that we have seen in philosophy and literature. “Time is violence” is great line, but what do you mean by it?
2. Enlightenment. In your second paragraph you write about the cave-in caused by blindness and bumping into things. When I first read this I interpreted the people in the cave as analogous to the type of people who click off the camera at splash mountain and make sex jokes on the kiddie rides. Is this what you meant? It seems that if they are looking for the exit their motives are well intentioned because they are searching for Enlightenment. What exactly causes them to block off their own path to Enlightenment? I think this aspect could be better developed and clarified.
3. If you would rather “voyage deeper in the cave” aren’t you saying that ignorance is bliss and you would rather live in a world of self-delusion and illusion than in the real world? Disneyland might have its place as a getaway, but if you stay there, in the cave/Disneyland, aren’t you just another sorry fool whose shackled like everyone else. Maybe you have a longer chain that allows you to “voyage deeper,” but you are still enchained.
4. Maybe the way to go with this is to say that all is illusion. In other words, staying in the cave is not so bad after all because there is no outside. The idea that there is an outside is just another illusion or shadow. Even if the outside existed and we went there, we would be confronted with another series of shadows.
5. You portray Disneyland as a type of oasis from the world. It is a world apart. But what happens when the world outside of Disneyland becomes more and more like Disneyland. I think one could argue that the outside world is just another type of Disneyland, a world of crass consumerism and fantasy escape, as exemplified by what people watch on T.V. and check out on the internet.
Mr. J
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